Bonnie Kaye’s Straight Talk
Newsletter
JULY 2014 Volume 15,
Issue 154
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LIFE WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE THIS COMPLICATED. PERIOD.
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THE JUNE ISSUE
Many
of you wrote to me waiting for the June newsletter which never came. One reason
is because I decided to change the date of the newsletters from mid-month to
the first of the month due to my time constraints. The second reason was
because I decided to change the direction of the June newsletter. For the past
few years, I have been sharing stories from gay men who are part of this
network meaning they have come to me for help or support in coming out to their
wives. Their stories have been so helpful to us in helping us come to terms
with our own marriages and realizing that these men tried their best not to be gay, but they ultimately
couldn't help who they are. They didn't marry us to make us miserable but
rather to validate their own lives and hopes that loving us enough would take
away those male attractions. In the end, it is what it is. A mess.
I've
decided this year that I've published enough stories over the past four years
of men's stories on why they took the marriage road with us. They are wonderful
for new men who come to me for understanding, and I send them out to women who
question why their husbands "chose" homosexuality over their
families. As you come to understand homosexuality, you will realize this is not
just about sex--it's about who a person is. Homosexuality is not just a sexual
act--it's the entire make up of a person--and it is different than straight. Once
you accept that, you'll be able to understand my philosophy that "gay men
don't think straight." They are gay. I don't think gay. I'm straight. That
doesn't mean better--it just means different. The men who sit home and torture
you can't be honest to you because they won't be honest with themselves. I
don't care how they touch you, feel you, tell you how they love you, or have
sex with you. If they want a penis--that is the dividing line for me. Gay. Yes,
to me it is black and white. Confusing to some of you--but definitely clear to
me. Penis. Gay. Period.
I
listened to over 2,000 men in the past 30 years. I do understand their struggle
and their battle. I support any man who wants to do the right thing--which is
come out to you and tell you the truth. Of course, this is a battle sometimes
because some men don't believe that telling the truth is the "best thing
to do."
I
am now asking those of you who would like to volunteer to help me convince
these men that telling the truth to your wife is the least they can do. When I
send men letters, I always explain the importance of:
1.
Honesty
2.
Responsibility
3.
Doing this the right way
Some
men listen to what I have to say. But I think that some prefer not to believe
me and think I'll approve of them keeping the "secret" from you. I
won't. Period. I am going to now share two different letters I recently
received that are typical of letters I received from gay men throughout the
year. I need your input in what you would like these men to know as far as
being a straight wife. This won't be easy for you because you need to put
"personal feelings" meaning anger and cursing on the side and instead
answer with "emotional impact" statements that might get the point
across.
I
want to be able to share with men who write to me your deep feelings of hurt
and devastation in a way that they will "get it." Believe it or not,
sometimes it does matter. For example, one man who was dating a gay married man
recently wrote to me that:
I have just spent all morning reading your articles and going over
your Website - you are truly remarkable for your courage and
conviction.
I was being so selfish - enjoying the passion and excitement of
having this affair and not considering 'the wife'. I justified it for a while -
thinking 'she must know, and perhaps she gets enough out of the marriage
(children, money, lifestyle, etc) that she is accepting. But now after reading
your material, I feel like a fool. She must be harboring such confusion, and
perhaps even deep sadness.
I
like getting letters from what I call "Other Men" because it is
easier most of the time to work with them to realize how much hurt they are
causing an unsuspecting wife. By the time the other man writes to me (a few
dozen every year), your gay husband is usually cheating on him as well.
I
will reprint two letters that I received during 2014 anonymously with you from
two of the husbands who asked me for help:
LETTER #1
From
this past February:
Dear
Bonnie,
I
have been married for 24 years to a wonderful woman. When I married her, I
believed we would live together and die together because I loved her so much.
Yes, I did have attractions to certain males but I believed that was normal for
teenage guys. One time an uncle molested me at the age of 14 and told me it's
normal for all men to experiment--that way they would know what kind of sex
they really wanted when they were older.
I
didn't like him touching me, and thankfully, he didn't do anything painful to
me like intercourse. I felt so guilty after that, but he was my uncle who loved
me and he was also my mother's brother.
I
tried to put that occasion (one time only) out of my mind because I was too
afraid to tell anyone. When I was 17 or 18, I would see other guys in the
locker room in school and sometimes think about how it would feel if they had
touched me instead. I then pushed those thoughts away knowing they were wrong.
I wasn't "that kind of a guy."
When
I met my wife in 1989, I immediately was attracted to her. She was beautiful
with long brown hair and green eyes. We both had two of the same college
classes, so we were spending a lot of time together. We found we had so much in
common and our personalities really blended well. I had gone out with other
girls and dated in high school, but it was casual dating and nothing serious.
My
wife and I became inseparable, and within the year, we took our vows as husband
and wife. Our first decade together was wonderful. We were in our early 20's
when we got married, and sex was good. We didn't have a lot of it sometimes
because we started a family within two years. Sometimes we were just too beat
to get around to it. I started working extra hours to support the family and
was tired a lot at the end of the day. Sex wasn't the first thing on my mind. I guess it wasn't that much on my wife's mind
either although she did bring it up from time to time.
By
the end of 10 years, there were three beautiful children in our lives. I felt
so content having a beautiful wife, three beautiful children, a good job, and a
nice house. I was living the American dream. And yet--this dream seem to leave
me feeling unhappy. I couldn't figure it out, so I started taking a few drinks
to "lift" my spirits. My drinking started to cause some arguments in
the marriage, so one night, I told my wife that if I can't have a few drinks at
home, I'll go to a bar and slammed out the door.
Don't
ask me why or how I ended up at a gay bar. It was the first bar that I saw. I
had seen it hundreds of times through the years but never dreamed of going into
it. That night was different. I just needed a drink and I wanted it quickly. I
walked in there feeling nervous and not knowing what to expect. I justified it
to myself that a drink was a drink--it didn't matter where you had it.
That
night was the beginning of me realizing why I had been drinking all of those
years. It was to numb the pain I had for still having those gay attractions.
Once I realized this was numbing my pain--guess what? I kept doing it. I didn't
go back to the gay bar for another ten years, but I became a heavy drinker. I
couldn't let "gay" get in the way of having my beautiful wife and
children.
It
did cause tension for sure. My wife and I stopped having sex. She believed it
was because of the alcohol. I believed it was because I couldn't keep doing
something that wasn't natural to me anymore. As the years passed, thinking
about making love to her just became harder and harder. And so we stopped
talking about it after a while. I knew she was unhappy about it, but I was
unhappy too. I had to give up my happiness to remain a good husband, so if she
wanted to keep me there, it came with a price.
I
don't remember exactly how it happened, but we started growing apart. Our kids
were now teenagers, so she was wrapped up in a lot of their activities. I
understood because I did work a lot, and I appreciated the fact that she was
there for them when I couldn't be. It seemed our communication was just
whatever was necessary, and a peck on the cheek was our customary way to say
"I love you." And I meant it--I did love her. She was a wonderful
wife and mother. Was I in love with her? No. But I loved her , and I hoped that
would be enough.
But
it wasn't. One night two years ago, I revisited the gay bar. I just felt I
wanted to see it one more time--even though I truly believed I WAS NOT GAY. I
sat next to a guy and started drinking. After four drinks, he asked me if I
wanted to sit and listen to music with him in his car. I said yes. That was the
beginning of my new "gay" life. At first I justified it as just some
touching like I did as a teenager. However, within a few months, I couldn't
deny what it was anymore. As much as I didn't want to be gay, I couldn't stay
away from it. It obsessed me.
I
had a dozen or so sexual experiences before I met the man of my dreams. He is
everything I could possibly hope for--except he can't accept the fact that I am
married. I realize that my marriage is over. Meeting someone who consumes all
of my thoughts has shown me that. I am planning to tell my wife in the next
week or two, but I'm not sure how to tell her.
I
know that my feelings are NOT her fault. She has been a wonderful wife.
However, even if I didn't meet my boyfriend, my marriage was growing apart more
and more. Is it really necessary for me to tell her that I'm gay? I don't see
how it could serve any greater purpose other than to hurt her and the children.
She would probably blame herself, and I don't want the children to feel any
kind of stigma because of this. Why can't I just tell her that it's time we
move on now that the kids are almost raised and we are both not feeling "into
it"?
I
know my drinking was a big factor in the decline of my marriage, but I never
even acted on the gay until a couple of years ago and the marriage was already
practically over. Please give me your feedback. I want to do the right thing.
LETTER #2 - This past March
Dear
Bonnie,
I am struggling with when to tell my wife, and most of the once
married/straight, and now gay guys that I have talked to recommend not bringing
up being gay as far as the reason for wanting the divorce. I think the
fear is that it will be more financially costly and the wife will be vindictive
(and we don't have the money to hire attorneys). I have heard of instances of
this on my "journey."
The fact that she will
be angry and unsympathetic is what worries me most. I want to minimize the
impact on the family and if my announcing I am gay, while asking for a divorce
will be more painful for all involved (her, my sons, her parents) then I would
tend to just address the divorce issue first and deal with everything else
later. Her parents know that we have had marital issues over the years and even
they get frequently frustrated dealing with her. If she were to tell me
she were a lesbian and wanted a divorce, I would understand that as more of a
rationale than that I've been a "bad" husband. It doesn't sound
like you think that works with 90% of women.
I would also be
comfortable telling my sons at any time now, but when we spoke on the phone,
you said I should tell my wife first. I don't think they will "fly off the
handle" as she will.
So, the real question in
my mind is... do I tell her I am gay and then address the divorce issue or get
the divorce and then let her know why? I know this is ultimately my
decision, but... based on your experience with women, how is it best received and
"handled" by everyone involved?
I have many years left
to be happy and I am very unhappy now, partly because my relationship with my
wife is not fun and positive (largely because of her personality and issues),
and partly because I want to be with guys more and I am getting increasingly
frustrated with the way she treats me and her issues that she will not address
or get help for (OCD, neediness, lack of self esteem, and lack of close
friends).
So, I have contemplated
admitting I am gay, in hopes that she will be more understanding of the reason
for a divorce. However, my fear is that she will be more angry and
vindictive, about "how I could do that to her!" versus understanding
my situation. Most married guys I have spoken to recommend not making that part
of the divorce, as for most it has been more painful or because it is not
grounds for divorce where I live, and therefore will not help the situation, but
further complicate it and give her more to be angry and vengeful about.
I would tell my sons (as
you recommend) as soon as a divorce is final (and I could tell her too) that I
am gay. What do you think about
all of this? Do I really have to tell her if I was planning to divorce her
anyway?
So
ladies.....here's where I need your help. If you could send me some comments on what you would like men to
know when they write me letters like this, I will compile them and have them
ready to go. Sometimes, I think hearing the voices of others besides mine
really helps men who have a conscience. I will share it with our group in an
upcoming newsletter as well. You can sign it however you want--with a first
name, an initial, or a middle name. You can even make up a name! But guys need
to hear us and take responsibility for what they do to us.
CHRISTIAN MINGLE
When Christian Mingle, the online dating service, started advertising
on television a few years back, it seemed like a dream come true for many
Christian women. After all, no respectable Christian woman likes to get clawed
on her first date. This was a dating site where good women with Christian
values could meet good men with Christian values--in other words--HANDS OFF.
Women with deep religious commitments felt this was an answer to their prayers
for meeting a guy who would love them for themselves and not for sex. I have no
doubt that there have been successful matches through this dating service--but
there are also some dangerous liaisons.
In
my first book "The Gay Husband Checklist for Women Who Wonder," I
have a chapter on the prototype of woman a gay man looks for when he decides to
try the marriage route. I give a list of characteristics and traits that gay
men look for either consciously or subconsciously or unconsciously. One of them
is women with religious backgrounds. They are prime targets because they are
NOT looking for sex or sexual contact prior to marriage based on their
religious beliefs.
Remember--Christian
gay men in denial don't want to be gay. Homosexuality goes against everything
they are taught and raised to believe in church and at home in their Christian
families. They have heard the repeated message that gay people are hell-bound,
and there is no one who can save them. Even in some of the modernized churches
where they acknowledge that maybe people are born gay, they still say that if
that is so, gay people are still obligated not to act on their homosexuality in
sexual ways. In other words, plan on a lifetime of celibacy. No fooling around.
Ever. Whatever.
For
gay men who want to try to live the straight life, Christian Mingle is a
wonderful tool. First of all, if you are not aggressive with the woman you are
dating--that's good. You want her for her mind and not her body. You care about
her on an emotional and intellectual level--good Christians aren't thinking about
sex. Whewwwwww.....that takes a lot of the pressure off the gay man. It gives him
more time to think about the wedding night....like how he is going to pull that
off. Well, never worry today about something that can be put off until tomorrow,
right?
Even
if the majority of men who go on Christian mingle have good intentions, I know
for a fact that all of them do not. One of my dear friends in our Straight
Wives Club was married to a man who will never admit to being gay. The fact
that he has HIV from having sex with men still does not make him admit to it--publically
of course. The fact that he has advertised and met some unsuspecting woman on
Christian Mingle is a horrific thing. In fact, it doesn't get much lower than
that.
On
a regular dating service such as Match.com or EHarmony.com, you have the
opportunity to meet men. You know that some might be good--some might be
bad--all of them may be a little misleading. You go into the online dating service
recognizing there are game players who are users and losers as hopefully some
winners.
But
on Christian Mingle--well--that is somewhat "Holy" for lack of a
better word. It's not like Farmersonly.com where you are looking for someone
who can appreciate a cow or goat the way "that only farmers do." You
are looking for someone on a site that has the name "Christian" in it--meaning
Godly. Why would you think there would be game players on a line promoted via
God's name? And yet, you can see how easy it is to be blindsided by "men
in hiding."
The
bottom line is who can you trust? You can only trust your own gut instinct. If
a man is willing not to touch you until after marriage, that is a dangerous red
flag for you as a woman. You are leaving a marriage where a man didn't want you
as a woman. You don't want to put yourself back in the same position.
I
am not saying you have to go against your religious beliefs, but you surely can
do things short of "everything." Any straight man who wants to marry you should
want you sexually in the worst way. You can tell from his affection, kissing,
and touching that will get you to the point of saying "STOP!!!" But
if he stops before he gets you to say "STOP," chances are he is on
this line for something you don't want to have to know about--and my best
advice to you is RUN!!! As fast as you can, RUN!!!!
Starting over can be a beautiful
adventure--but like all adventures, it has its highs and lows. You just don't
want to put yourself back in emotional harm's way. Making better choices is
life is all about.
BLOG - JILL
One of our far away straight sisters, Jill, has a
beautiful blog that I follow. The blog is called "Unspeakable Scars." Her writing in each entry is so eloquent. To give you and
example, here is her June passage that I would like to share it with you:
FEELINGS
“I
remember awakening one morning and finding everything smeared with the color of
forgotten love” – Charles Bukowski
This
just about sums up how I felt in that moment when I realized I wasn’t in love
anymore.
Something
I’ve learned about myself is that when I love I love deeply, too much perhaps,
but how do you control love? You can’t help how you feel, there’s no turning
down the volume, it is what it is, you either feel it or you don’t. I used to
ask myself why am I giving this person everything and I’m not getting anything
in return and I would excuse him for it with the notion that he just shows his
love in a different way than I do. I started to think that I was too loving,
too romantic, too idealistic, too hungry for love and passion. At the end of it
all I actually felt quite silly for ever believing that those things really existed,
those feelings and desires, and I was stripped bare.
At
night when we’d go to bed I would lie awake staring at his back as he lay on
the edge of the bed, this vast space between us. I’d cry silently, not wanting
to make an already awkward situation even worse. That was one of the worst
feelings I’ve ever felt. I wondered what was so terrible about me that he would
rather cling to the edge of the bed than lie next to me, his wife. Eventually
even that was too much for him to bear and he just stopped coming to bed
altogether. Didn’t feel good.
The
Bukowski line describes how I felt. After such a long period of time when all I
felt was grief and despair there was a moment, a morning. I woke up and was
lying in bed gazing out the window and it was the most beautiful morning, full
of clarity, when the sky is that shade of blue you only see in the Spring and
the sun was shining but it looked cold. The light was melancholy and
matter-of-fact. I looked around me and I knew it was over. Everything felt
foreign, the sheets on the bed, the paint on the walls, the books on the shelf.
It was as if everything was stained. Those feelings of love and hope and desire
were long gone. Instead there was just this awful, suffocating sadness.
Months
later during my recovery I was sitting outside by myself and I had this
incredibly strong feeling. It was a hot day and I was enjoying the feeling of
the sun on my skin and I was thinking about everything that had happened and I
was crying sort of half happy half sad and I suddenly had this very strong
feeling wash over me. I felt alive. I felt like the day had just hugged me. It
was the most intense and beautiful and life affirming feeling I’ve ever
experienced and I have no idea where it came from.
I’ve
had my feelings hurt, I’ve hurt other peoples feelings. I know how it feels to
show love and I know what it is to feel loved. I’ve felt angry (still do) and
sad and hopeless, and I’ve felt strong too. Feelings leave scars on who you
are, whether they be good or bad.
Intuition
is a feeling. One thing this experience has taught me is to trust it.
You
can also Jill's eloquent past and future words here:
http://unspeakablescars.wordpress.com/
Also,
if you go to my "Links" page at the menu of www.gayhusbands.com, you can access two other phenomenal
blogs by my friends Maureen and Grace.
JULY RADIO SHOWS
Every Sunday night a 10 p.m. EST, 9 p.m. CT, 8 p.m. MT,
and 7 p.m. PT, you can catch my show live on www.Blogtalkradio.com. You can
also listen to all of the previous broadcasts anytime you like. Go to: www.Blogtalkradio.com
In the search box, type in Straight Wives Talk Show.
Coming this month:
Sunday,
July 6 - The inspirational Suzette
Hinton - Life Coach who teaches us the importance of loving ourselves
first.
Sunday,
July 13 - Therapist Alexa
Servodidio - Teaching us healing techniques when going through the toughest
of times.
Sunday,
July 20 - Dr. Karin
Huffer - author of Overcoming the Devastation of the Legal Abuse System and court advocate
for women where abuse is involved including issues such as child custody and
child support.
Sunday,
July 27 - our own personal doctor in the house--Dr. Brian Hooper! Dr. Hooper is always
validating our pain so we can move ahead instead of being held back.
All of my wonderful guests are there to help you move to
a happier stage in your life. Listen whenever you can--the shows are there for
you!
Have a wonderful month--and please send me your thoughts
that I can share with the men who come to me.
With love and hope,
Bonnie ♥
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